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When Is It Not OK to Have a Facebook Page?

Tue, 04/29/2008 - 8:00am by geeksugar
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In Washington DC, some young teachers are taking that whole MySpace thing a little too literally and customizing their Facebook pages with scandalous weekend activities and other inappropriate postings.

A kindergarten teacher posted a sexual ad she would probably protect her class from, one young special ed teacher put up a bumper sticker that said, "You're a retard, but I love you," and many more post themselves partying. Sure, these kids are fresh out of college in their 20s, but do parents of their students care what's normal for 22-year-olds to do?

Many of these teachers said their profiles were private, but they were accessed easily through DC groups — that, combined with changing privacy policies, is enough to keep me from posting much more than a headshot. But what about for people who hold public office, or slightly public jobs like teachers?

Once you get above a certain age, maybe you shouldn't have a MySpace or Facebook page at all, and you should probably really not have one if you have a job where anyone anywhere might Google you. Yes, I see how restrictive that is, but let this article be a lesson to you. For as embarrassing and unprofessional it can be, when should you not have a Facebook page?

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  • ladychaos's picture
    ladychaos
    1

    There shouldn't be a ban on a facebook or myspace page. It is up to that holder to moderate the content on that page. If you don't want the materials seen by the outside world, dont post it.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • syako's picture
    syako
    2

    To be honest, I think if you want to look professional you should either not have a profile, or make it more resume-like than "party with friends"

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • mini_pixie's picture
    mini_pixie
    3

    I don't think there is a time when people should "not be allowed to have a Facebook page," I just think people have to not be idiots about what they put online for the world to see. It's (apparently) easy to forget that nothing is hidden if it is on the World Wide Web, and lots of people (read Miley Cyrus, small-town mayors, young teachers, your little sister) seem to be a little unclear on the concept.

    I have had myspace and Facebook accounts for years, mostly to keep an eye on my high-school-aged sister's pages and make sure she isn't revealing too much, and I've never felt the need to post pictures of myself in my underwear, or out at the club with my girlfriends. (Of course by most 20-something standards, I'm kind of an old fogey)

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • TidalWave's picture
    TidalWave
    4

    Now i think that is being oversensitive. What a teacher does on their own time is their business. The sexad is a bit much, but pictures of her drinking? Big deal. If it doesn't affect her job, then who cares.

    Since I am a working professional in the computer industry, I use facebook's strictest privacy settings and only put up pictures that i think reflect me quite well (traveling, etc).

    You can adjust your settings so no one can search for you or find your pictures or see anything more than your name, etc.

    As a way for me to keep in touch with my friends without worrying about outdated email addresses, I don't think you shouldn't have one -- just be aware, like everything else on the internet, that it is public.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • SillyGirl's picture
    SillyGirl
    5

    People should just be a little more aware of their impact. If you are in a profession where your public persona matters, then either have an anonymous profile that only your friends will recognize, or limit your privacy settings so only your friends can see your profile - and not people in groups.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • Zaianne's picture
    Zaianne
    6

    Although I voted for the first choice, I really think anyone who wants a facebook/mysace page should be able to have one, but they should be responsible about it too. Especially if they have a public job like being a Teacher. Make sure it's not accessible to the public if it's going to be raunchy. Most of these social networking sites have the options to make sure your page is restricted and these people should be smart enough to make sure it is. It's their jobs on the line anyways.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • flowergirl's picture
    flowergirl
    7

    I think everyone should be allowed to have a FB page.. it's an easy and fun way to keep in touch with friends & acquaintances. I think the real problem is that people don't know how to responsibly control the CONTENT of their pages.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • BlairBear's picture
    BlairBear
    8

    I think whether someone is in a public job or not, they should be allowed to have a Myspace/Facebook page. They are entitled to have a life outside of their work and be able to put it on their pages without consequence.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • MindayH's picture
    MindayH
    9

    I think that anyone who wants to have a page should have one, but if you put racy pictures and/or content and your job is as a teacher, then if parents get mad, you should be ready to face the consequences that arise.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • glam sugar's picture
    glam sugar
    11

    I don't have a problem with anyone having one but some content just shouldn't be on there.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • sweetpeabrina's picture
    sweetpeabrina
    12

    Anyone should be allowed to have a Facebook or MySpace page. Sure there are creepy people on there but it's for "social networking."

    Here's another example. I used to work with a teacher who put on his myspace page things about specific students: how he didn't like them, called them names, etc, etc. He used their first names but not their last. He didn't realize that his students were reading his page and there was a LOT of drama over this. Yes, it was stupid on his part. I would NEVER put anything up there about a student.

    Also, I think it's important to not become "friends" with your students. Many of my students have asked to be my friend on Facebook and I always ignore the request. I don't have anything up there that is incriminating in any way but I don't want them to know anything personal about me.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • iheartmy07mini's picture
    iheartmy07mini
    13

    As far as my MySpace goes the only thing people can see if they aren't my friend (and I am strict on who I add as a friend) is my main picture, display name (which is not my real name, that's also why I don't have a facebook), status and simple things like that, my name isn't even registered with my account and the email I use to sign on is completely different from the one I give out to anyone, so if someone tries to search for me, good luck (unless you know someone that has me on their friend list and still even then you cant find out much about me, and I'm smart I don't post things that people would look down on in any setting, I mean my mom has seen my page and has nothing to gripe about. If you're smart about it, it will cause no problems.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • juicylove's picture
    juicylove
    14

    a teacher can always make their facebook profile private.. and i dont know if its just here but teachers arent allowed to add or accept friends if theyre students. who cares if there are pictures of them drinking? theyre of age and its theyre free time. im sure teachers have seen students at bars anyway. maybe the 'retard' comment and the sexual stuff is too much, but nobody should really have those, not just teachers or political people.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • juicylove's picture
    juicylove
    15

    hmm my post was flagged? sorry if i swore or something i didnt realize?

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • Lainetm's picture
    Lainetm
    16

    Age is irrelevant. Stupid, however, is always a factor.

    You should never do anything on the internet that you wouldn't want your family / friends / coworkers to see.

    mini_pixie: What's wrong with old fogies? old fogey

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • TsuKata's picture
    TsuKata
    17

    While I agree that discretion is the better part of valor, I am bothered by the presumption that a person's personal life somehow reflects on their professional life. If I drink myself silly every weekend (or worse), that doesn't mean I'm a bad employee. If I have a crass sense of humor that I share with my friends, that doesn't mean I use that same humor in the workplace.

    It bothers me that HR personnel go around googling employees and can use that information against potential and current employees. It happens, so I guard against it accordingly, but it seems wholly unreasonable to me, akin to calling an employee's friends, posing as a friend, and asking them to gossip.

    Just because information is public does not, IMO, make it relevant, much less appropriate, for employers' use.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • CaterpillarGirl's picture
    CaterpillarGirl
    18

    I had a coworker whos 12 year old was on myspace (warned her about its dangers, age limit etc) and she says "her teachers are on there" so i looked, and there was Teach, with innapropriate comments, pictures, on her profile. I think they just want to be blind that thier students will respect them less for having one. Because I certainly couldnt take a teacher seriously who has glittery butterflies, pictures of her half naked, and talking like she is 13

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • pharm_chick's picture
    pharm_chick
    19

    as long as you can keep the page 'scandal free' and avoid any possible damage to yourself or your job, then i dont think there is a problem with having a myspace/facebook page.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • tdamji's picture
    tdamji
    20

    why are students and parents going out of their way to look up these teachers? don't they have better things to do, like raise their kids?

    my cousin is becoming a teacher and said that they're not allowed to have a myspace or facebook account. pretty crazy, i think.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • ann418's picture
    ann418
    21

    I'm a teacher with (private) Facebook and Myspace pages, and I just take my name off so no one can search for me. Since I'm an elementary teacher, I'm not so worried about my students looking me up. If I was a middle or high school teacher then I would most likely take my page down. Or make it completely impossible for any of them to know it's me.

    I know of a teacher who teaches high school drama who not only has a public myspace, but made a page for his drama department. So all the students are friends with the department page and him. He can contact them outside of school, and this completely creeps me out. That's a line that definitely should not be crossed.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • julieulie's picture
    julieulie
    22

    Like others have said, there's nothing wrong with teachers, etc., having pages, as long as they are responsible for the content. My Facebook page is accessible by my boss, but I would never ever put anything up there that he couldn't see -- and if anyone else made any inappropriate comments or tagged photos, I'd just take them down.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • ahagen's picture
    ahagen
    23

    Anyone who has a MySpace or Facebook page should make it their responsibility to keep their page appropriate. If someone posts something stupid and it gets into the hands of the "public" then it is their own fault. I am a teacher and have both a MySpace and Facebook page, but I wouldn't post anything that I wouldn't want my students to see. What you do outside of your work life is and should be private, but it's not private once you post it online, no matter how "secure" you think the privacy settings are.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • linb's picture
    linb
    24

    Many people use these sites to keep in touch with friends and family, so I think anyone should be allowed to have one. Having a MySpace or Facebook page does not automatically mean that you have embarrassing or questionable content on them. I wouldn't be the least bit ashamed if my boss found my online profiles.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • bengalspice's picture
    bengalspice
    25

    I feel that Facebook has gone downhill from where it started. It used to be a network of Ivy Leaguers, who just wanted to network after graduating. Then it became an open network to every college student, which was still fine. When it became a game site and high school kids were allowed to access it, I started looking for other sites. I joined to have one website where I could keep up with alums. Now I use LinkedIn and my alum site instead of Facebook. And considering how hard it is to get yourself removed completely from Facebook, I now regret having a profile in the same pool as idiots who post their entire private lives on there.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • christina marie's picture
    christina marie
    26

    I was so interested when you posted this! I noticed a few months ago friends who have now taken jobs as teachers including items on their profiles that I found to be odd and slightly disturbing. One girl who works as an aid to a special needs student made many jokes in photo captions and in her profile taking about how "retarded" she looked, or her friends looked, etc. While she was not necessarily referring to her special student as "retarded," I think it was in horrible taste. Another girl included pictures of her students. I wondered whether the parents of her students knew she was posting these pictures and whether they approved of these photos being shared.
    While I still understand that these girls may want to keep Facebook profiles, I think they should realize that with their new jobs comes more responsibilities and maybe they should not use Facebook to share photos or comments with friends.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • deannest's picture
    deannest
    27

    easy solution: just don't be a seedy public official/teacher/etc. have a facebook, and don't have anything suspect to hide.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • cutesy11's picture
    cutesy11
    28

    this is a bit off topic, but I know a lot of young teachers my age and many of them do drugs. The school systems really need to do rougher backround checks.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • looseseal's picture
    looseseal
    29

    I only just set up a myspace account recently because I had to get in touch with one of my friends and his regular email is so full of spam he gave up on checking it ever. So I had to message him via myspace. Otherwise I wouldn't even touch myspace with a ten-foot-pole.

    As it is, I'm so not telling myspace my real name or my real birthday. I make up a bunch of fake names and fake birth dates for online accounts. And put up a barely identifiable picture of myself that only people who actually know me in real life can tell who it is. Makes it that much harder for someone to steal my identity, y'know?

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • Schaianne's picture
    Schaianne
    30

    I agree - it doesn't hurt to HAVE a page ... but if you'd be embarrassed by ANYONE AT ALL seeing it ... then don't post it. Common sense, folks - it's a dying skill.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • Advah's picture
    Advah
    31

    I'm with Tdamji.

    And maybe people should respect privacy (esp when the profiles are private) instead of forbidding access to Facebook.
    I have profiles on both websites, and they have pictures of me with my friends, me partying, me drinking and me making silly faces. I have posted jokes and stories I would never tell at work, simply because there are things you say to your friends and family, and not to your coworkers/boss.

    It's becoming pretty fashionable here to have employers checking your Fbk profile before hiring you, and that's completely ridiculous. From the moment I am professional when at work and do my job well, what I do or say on my free time is not my employer/coworkers should know.
    If you don't break into someone's house to check their picture albums and read their diary, there's no reason why you should have the right to comment on what they post on their profile when it's private.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • BalooB's picture
    BalooB
    33

    I believe that a job is only a small aspect of a person and therefore everyone should be entitled to a Facebook or myspace page. If they hold a job such as a teacher, they should be careful about the pictures they're tagged in or the privacy settings they have on, as with any other person.
    In addition to this, I really think that any parent who is looking for their child's teacher on facebook is really really really pathetic- they are the kind of parents who are harming their children by being in their child's face too much.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • adco's picture
    adco
    34

    Several of my son's (he's 16) teachers have myspace pages, as do I. I don't think most of them accept students as friends though. I don't understand how some people don't "get" that this stuff can be available to anyone that wants to look at it. Common sense would be helpful here..

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • imcs's picture
    imcs
    35

    I think it's okay to have a profile as long as you are responsible about its content. You wouldn't want your co-workers, students, or subordinates loosing respect for you over what you did last weekend. Profiles are to stay in touch with friends, your private life, however, should stay private - and the internet is anything but.

    29 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • melizzle's picture
    melizzle
    36

    I was a teacher with a Facebook. I never accepted students as friends. Duh.

    Just monitor what your page has. No scandalous photos. No incriminating info.

    29 weeks 23 hours ago Report Comment
  • LOVErickii's picture
    LOVErickii
    37

    it should be "under a certain age"
    technology is very firmly apart of our lives but kids (lets say that arent in highchool yet? which is like 12 and under)shouldnt be exposed to it yet. let them have a fulfilling childhood.

    29 weeks 23 hours ago Report Comment
  • clocked's picture
    clocked
    38

    they're good for networking and keeping in touch, but like you said, if you have a job where anyone is going to look you up, you should restrict the content for your own good. I remember when I started college I had some racy photos up..about a year later they were gone when I had a boyfriend. different circumstances, but I definitely think after a certain age, certain content on FB or myspace is just pathetic.

    29 weeks 22 hours ago Report Comment
  • thorswitch's picture
    thorswitch
    39

    I agree that anyone should be able to have a Facebook/MySpace/TeamSugar (or whatever) page on a social networking site if they want, and that those who do opt to have them need to be careful about what they put out there.

    I do think, however, that parents do have a right to check out their kids' teachers, and, really, probably should. How often do we hear about teachers who molest or have sex with students? Just this week there was a female teacher who was arrested for the third time in two weeks for having sex with an under-aged student. Just as with Debra LaFave and Mary Kay Letourneu (sp?), this was happening outside of school, and the parents apparently didn't know a thing about it.

    And it's not just female teachers abusing male students, but also male teachers with female students, female teachers with female students, male teachers with male students, and probably just about any other grouping a person can think of. Now, granted, a teacher who is also a sexual predator isn't likely to have a "guess what, I like to have sex with kids" graphic on their Facebook, but I'll bet they have some stuff up there that would be rather inappropriate.

    Another issue with teachers (and other professionals who work with vulnerable populations) posting inappropriate material to a website is that teachers are supposed to set a good example for the kids they're teaching, and pictures of wild carousing or broadcasting your sexual predilections isn't going to help accomplish that.

    The problem I have with the idea that a person should be able to put up whatever they want on their Facebook, etc. is that in choosing what to post (and in what it shows you doing) is that it's an indication of what kind of judgment you have, and whether or not you have good judgment is ENTIRELY relevant to a job - *any* kind of job. And it's not just pictures of getting stone-faced drunk or announcing your sexual predilections that could be troublesome, but anything that might indicate if you're irresponsible or have ethics some might find questionable (such as griping about the high bounce fees at your bank or how you got a dress for a party, hid the tags on it and then took it back the next day for a full refund) could indicate that you may not have the level of professionalism or integrity they're wanting to have in their company. It may not seem fair, but sometimes life just isn't.

    One last thing (well, for this post, anyway), BalooB said:

    In addition to this, I really think that any parent who is looking for their child's teacher on facebook is really really really pathetic- they are the kind of parents who are harming their children by being in their child's face too much.

    IMO, I think the opposite is true far more often. Parents today don't really pay enough attention to their kids, if anything. Kids under 14 aren't supposed to be able to sign up for MySpace, but there are thousands of them on there, and how many of their parents know about it or understand the potential dangers there (like getting chatted up by pedophiles?) It's the same with most other social networking sites.

    We've also seen that, in most of the school shooting cases, the parents had no idea that their kids were even troubled, much less building an arsenal in the family garage, not to mention that there are so many parents who expect others - the government, the schools, the community - to "protect" their children from whatever might be out there, rather than taking the time and making the effort to protect their kids themselves or teach their kids how to protect themselves.

    We have parents who want the schools to teach sex ed (but only according to their values, whether that means teaching abstinence or teaching birth control,) some even want religion taught in schools - or at least to make sure nothing that counters their religion is taught (and that's not limited just to conservative Christians, though we hear about them the most.) Many want the government to ban games, movies, music or even foods that might not be "good" for kids rather than establishing what is or isn't acceptable for their child and then paying attention to make sure those limits are respected.

    I honestly think that if parents spent MORE time with their children and paying attention to what their kids do, who they hang out with, what they watch and listen to for entertainment and so forth, it would truly resolve a lot of the problems we see with kids today. A parents job is to care for, guide and TEACH their children - and it's hard to do that if you're just not paying attention.

    29 weeks 19 hours ago Report Comment
  • natali3nguyen's picture
    natali3nguyen
    40

    i don't think there should be an age limit for facebook, but i think if you're gonna pos